Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/05/1996 01:30 PM Senate JUD

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                   SB 238 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS                                  
                                                                              
  CHAIRMAN ROBIN TAYLOR  called the Judiciary Committee meeting to             
 order at 1:31 p.m.  The first order of business was SB 238.                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS, sponsor of SB 238, gave the following                 
 overview of the measure.  He sponsored SB 238 at the request of the           
 Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) because of            
 the lack of enforcement of prevention of animal cruelty.  The SPCA            
 concerns include: lack of animal care; vague animal statutes; and             
 a lack of resources to investigate complaints.  Two groups worked             
 to craft the bill:  the SPCA and MUSH (a dog mushers'                         
 organization).  He expressed concern about the fiscal notes, and              
 the steel jaw leg-hole traps for domesticated animals.                        
                                                                               
 Number 075                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS asked how local ordinances would play into this                 
 legislation.  SENATOR PHILLIPS was not sure.  SENATOR ADAMS asked             
 who would pay for shelter and vaccination costs once an animal is             
 picked up by DEC.  SENATOR PHILLIPS expressed concern that the                
 state would pay the cost.  SENATOR ADAMS referred to page 5, lines            
 8-9, and asked if any cultures presently consume dogs or cats.                
 SENATOR PHILLIPS was not aware of any in Alaska.  SENATOR ADAMS               
 asked if the bill contains a definition of "domestic animals."                
 SENATOR PHILLIPS stated the definition is contained on page 7,                
 lines 8-15.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 139                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS asked how the Legislature should address criticism              
 leveled at cost of the bill at a time when people are demanding a             
 reduction in the size of state government.  SB 238 would take away            
 a responsibility that has traditionally been under the purview of             
 local government.  SENATOR PHILLIPS repeated his concern about the            
 cost of shifting the responsibility to the state and felt the                 
 supporters of the measure will need to address that issue.  He                
 added the impetus for SB 238 was the Chistochina incident where 70            
 dogs were abandoned, the majority of which had to be destroyed                
 because the legal process for rescuing them was so time-consuming.            
 He noted a second incident in which seven horses died during                  
 transport to Colorado.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 188                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS questioned the legitimacy of the animal abuser                  
 registration requirement in light of the fact that the sex offender           
 registration law is being contested in court.  SENATOR PHILLIPS               
 stated that is the section he hoped the Judiciary Committee would             
 review.                                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR addressed the search warrant provision and stated              
 although it may be effective, the potential for abuse of the use of           
 search warrants, when insufficient proof for intrusion of private             
 property exists, is of great concern.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated a Rule           
 change would be necessary to change the search warrant process,               
 since under current law a person cannot independently request a               
 search warrant and then request a peace officer to accompany                  
 him/her to the scene.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 241                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS asked about the penalty provisions.  SENATOR PHILLIPS           
 explained the first offense is a class A misdemeanor which carries            
 a 0-1 year prison term with up to a $5,000 fine.  The third offense           
 is a class C felony.  He added the bill is meant to draw attention            
 to incidents of animal cruelty.                                               
                  SB 238 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS                                  
                                                                               
 BRETT REID, City of Kenai, stated an alternative bill, HB 386,                
 includes a provision allowing first and second class boroughs to              
 establish and enforce cruelty prevention ordinances which he and              
 other animal control agencies, support.  Borough authority is not             
 in statute and is a loophole that needs to be closed.  His concerns           
 with SB 238 are as follows:  include animal control officers in the           
 definition of "humane enforcement officer" on page 4; delete the              
 section on consumption of dogs and cats as it might be a cultural             
 bias issue; and delete the registration section for reasons                   
 mentioned earlier.                                                            
                                                                               
 BILL GODEK, City of Kenai, agreed with Mr. Reid's testimony.  He              
 supported the rabies vaccination provision to prevent the spread of           
 rabies, especially in rural Alaska where rabies is endemic in the             
 wildlife population. He suggested adding a subsection (c) under               
 Section 3 to allow a person to destroy an animal for health and               
 safety reasons.  He also suggested changing Section 2 (1) to read,            
 "knowingly inflicts severe physical pain or suffering on an                   
 animal."                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 534                                                                    
                                                                               
 DIANE ZARFOSS, representing the Alaska SPCA, stated her strong                
 support for SB 238 as there is no sound legislation to cover                  
 incidents that do occur.  The goal of the AK SPCA is to have                  
 statutory definitions of animal cruelty to enable the legal system            
 to address the issue in a timely manner.  Regarding the fiscal                
 notes, she stated the AK SPCA has, and will, voluntarily assist               
 peace officers.  She thought the legislation would curb animal                
 abuse, with few cases ending up in court.  The AK SPCA is willing             
 to eliminate the registration provision and to modify the rabies              
 vaccination provision.                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS asked if the AK SPCA, or the animal owners, should              
 pay for rabies vaccinations, in light of the state's budget                   
 deficit.  MS. ZARFOSS explained that rabies vaccinations are                  
 currently made available by the state, to outlying areas.  She                
 would like to see that program continue and permit SPCA volunteers            
 to become lay vaccinators.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 580                                                                    
                                                                               
 JANICE ADAIR, Department of Environmental Conservation, stated DEC            
 would be responsible for investigating complaints, arranging for              
 care and shelter of abused animals, administering the rabies                  
 vaccination program, and maintaining an abuser registration system,           
 which would require abusers to notify the department of changes of            
 address for a 10 year period under SB 238.  She discussed                     
 differences in penalties provided in SB 238 as well as definitional           
 changes that are problematic.  For instance, the definition of                
 animal in existing law includes any animal but fish, therefore DEC            
 interprets the bill to mean hitting a moose with a railroad car to            
 carry a second degree cruelty to animal charge.  The bill would               
 essentially ban mouse traps.  Additionally, DEC would be required             
 to provide annually, to every municipality, rabies vaccines at no             
 more than the cost of the vaccine.  DEC believes animal cruelty is            
 a shameful activity that needs to be dealt with, but feels the                
 problem could be more expeditiously addressed at the local level,             
 by local animal control officers.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 561                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS noted DEC projected 70 animal cruelty investigations            
 per year in its fiscal note.  MS. ADAIR stated DEC made that                  
 estimate based on the number of complaints currently received, and            
 added that many neighbors file animal complaints against each                 
 other. No complaints are investigated by DEC.                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked who investigates complaints.  MS. ADAIR                  
 responded the complaints are investigated by animal control                   
 officers or by the Alaska State Troopers.  SENATOR TAYLOR commented           
 that it appears there had not been a very spirited level of                   
 enforcement in the incidents referred to by Senator Phillips.                 
                                                                               
 JAMES JENNINGS, a furrier from Fairbanks, made the following                  
 comments.  SB 238 does not require a veterinarian to make the                 
 diagnostic call on an animal before it is seized, and the agencies            
 included in the bill do not have veterinarians on staff.  When an             
 animal is seized without a formal diagnosis, lawsuits may                     
 proliferate.  Regarding the horse tragedy last fall, the                      
 responsible party is being prosecuted.  By opening up search                  
 warrants to private citizens, a Nazi-type society could be                    
 established.  Regarding the definition of employees, the bill does            
 not specify whether a peace officer would be able to designate                
 power to an entity that is not professionally trained.  There are             
 differing opinions on animal care.  Animals are possessions,                  
 therefore it should be the owner's right to eat one, if desired.              
 Requiring that housing for animals be structurally sound could                
 require a structural engineer to design or inspect animal                     
 dwellings.  His primary concern with SB 238 is the lack of a                  
 requirement for a veterinarian to diagnose an animal, to protect              
 both the animals' and individual's rights.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 507                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if Mr. Jennings believes a greater level of              
 enforcement is necessary.  MR. JENNINGS replied the law is                    
 adequate; the problem lies with getting peace officers to enforce             
 those laws.  By using veterinary diagnoses, most cases will not               
 reach the court system, as owners will plead out.                             
                                                                               
 BEVERLY NESTER, a pet shop owner, highlighted her concerns with SB
 238.  Peace officers would not be liable if the animal seized is              
 harmed.  There is no description of who the seized animal would be            
 given to, nor is there any description of who would be liable if              
 the animal got a disease or was harmed while in the person's care.            
 Many exotic animals need very specialized care.   Peace officers              
 are not trained to make vet calls.  People requesting warrants                
 should not be associates as the chance for conspiracy is too great.           
 Veterinarians should be the only ones to determine an animal's                
 condition and welfare.  She suggested having the Division of                  
 Agriculture oversee this program and determine minimum standards of           
 space needed for animals.  She does not believe scientific research           
 is an excuse for cruelty to animals.  The 72 hour feeding                     
 requirement is not appropriate for some pets, such as snakes.                 
                                                                               
 Number 458                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS asked Ms. Nester to elaborate on her conspiracy                 
 comment.  MS. NESTER referred to page 3, lines 15-16.  She believed           
 the person applying for the search warrant should not be associated           
 with the witnesses they produce.  As a pet shop owner, and as a               
 former member of the Fairbanks Borough Animal Control Commission,             
 there have been acts of conspiracy to put pet shop owners out of              
 business, or to take animals away from certain people.                        
                                                                               
 SALLY CLAMPITT, representing Alaska Equine Rescue, testified in               
 support of SB 238.  There is an enormous amount of neglect and                
 cruelty to horses in this state.  Horses present a unique problem             
 in that they cannot be easily transported to a local animal                   
 shelter.  Alaska Equine Rescue is not concerned about the rabies              
 provision, since rabies do not apply to horses, and the group does            
 not have strong feelings about the registration provision.  A                 
 prevailing problem with animal abuse is with obtaining a clear                
 determination of whether or not abuse exists.  Veterinarians differ           
 in their opinions and there are no uniform standards of care.                 
                                                                               
 Number 413                                                                    
                                                                               
 LIZ DODD, representing the Alaska affiliate of the ACLU, testified            
 in opposition to SB 238, due to the registration requirement.  The            
 ACLU opposed the sex offender registration legislation on the basis           
 that it would open the floodgates to registrys.  Registrys are a              
 way of punishing people through public ridicule and admonishment.             
 The argument that a a sex offender registry would serve public                
 protection does not hold for this measure.  The bill does not                 
 contain any mention of who could access the registry and could lead           
 to a punishment not fitting the crime, since every employer in the            
 state could have access to the registry.  Regarding designating DEC           
 as the adminstering agency, DEC has more pressing needs, such as              
 water cleanup, and is not adequately staffed to run this program.             
 ACLU does not support cruelty to animals but does not feel SB 238             
 adequately addresses the problem.                                             
                                                                               
 CAROL JENSEN supported the testimony of Mr. Reid and Mr. Godek of             
 Kenai.  This legislation will not take authority away from local              
 governments because very few communities have organized animal                
 control forces or laws.  Even in Anchorage it is often difficult to           
 get action on some of the most severe and highly publicized abuses.           
 SB 238 would stop animal abusers from being protected by the lack             
 of adequate laws.  She suggested changing line 2 on page 5 to read,           
 "inflicts severe and prolonged suffering on an animal;...."                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS asked Ms. Jensen to elaborate on her written                    
 testimony about accepted standards for scientific research.  She              
 replied she was hoping the committee would delete the section that            
 exempts people who cause pain and suffering to animals in research            
 labs from prosecution.  She noted there are many violations of                
 minimal standards for animal care and cruelty at research labs                
 nationwide and other more humane ways of conducting medical                   
 research exist.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 318                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR described PSP testing procedures conducted at the              
 Palmer testing lab to ensure mussels and oysters "farmed" in the              
 state are safe before they are sold on the commercial market.  That           
 lab would be subject to sanction if that section was removed.  MS.            
 JENSEN responded that other methods of PSP testing exist and should           
 be reviewed.                                                                  
                                                                               
 SGT. JAMES MCCANN, Alaska State Trooper and President of Alaska               
 Equine Rescue, testified from Fairbanks.  He stated prosecutors and           
 state troopers see the current statute as vague and too open to               
 subjective opinion.  The state troopers would require a                       
 veterinarian to make a decision about impoundment of an animal,               
 however local veterinarians called upon to do the job are afraid to           
 make the decisions as it impacts their reputations and businesses.            
 He noted the state veterinarian has not testified on this measure,            
 and he felt it is important to get feedback from the state                    
 veterinarian board.  Police officers can seize animals as evidence            
 in cruelty cases under current statute.  Regarding the search                 
 warrant provision in SB 238, anyone could sign an affidavit to get            
 a search warrant.  This procedure could create a chaotic situation            
 at AST headquarters.  The Dept. of Public Safety would like to see            
 the current method of obtaining a search warrant continue.  DPS               
 does not support the animal abuser registration provision because             
 of the problems associated with sex offender registry.  He added              
 people will be reluctant to report cruelty cases, and making the              
 punishment a felony would decrease reporting.  Alaska Equine Rescue           
 believes if a person wants to humanely kill his/her horse and use             
 the carcass for whatever purpose, the owner should have that right.           
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked Sgt. MCCANN to send written comments to                  
 committee members.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 202                                                                    
                                                                               
 MICHELLE GIRAULT, representing Friends of Pets, testified in                  
 support of SB 238.  Friends of Pets believes it is time to take               
 animal abuse very seriously and believes there is a strong link               
 between animal abuse, child abuse, and other forms of abuse that              
 surface later in life.  SB 238 tightens up existing laws and                  
 provides prosectors with an important tool.                                   
                                                                               
 JOHN GLOTFELTY, a Delta farmer and President of the North Pole                
 Borough Planning Commission, made the following points.  Animal               
 control officers are not peace officers and should not be given the           
 same powers.  Second class boroughs which do not have law                     
 enforcement powers should not be granted those powers through the             
 back door.  The Division of Agriculture is the appropriate agency             
 to oversee animal care and should determine standards and solicit             
 public comment before legislation is passed.  He supports the                 
 position taken by the Department of Public Safety, and believes               
 serious constitutional and legal problems exist with this measure             
 since the legislature cannot grant powers to a borough without                
 voter approval.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 158                                                                    
                                                                               
 ETHEL CHRISTENSEN. volunteer director of the SPCA, testified in               
 support of SB 238.  The AK SPCA does not intend to create a new               
 bureaucracy, but rather to continue to be the focal point for                 
 complaints in the state.  It needs a list of qualified animal                 
 control or state humane officers.  Those officers could work                  
 outside of their jurisdictions but need state certification.  She             
 does not believe it is necessary to have a veterinarian do all                
 diagnoses.  The AK SPCA has been trying to work with the state to             
 establish a volunteer training program to administer rabies                   
 vaccinations.                                                                 
                                                                               
 JIM ELLISON, a farmer, testified from Fairbanks.  He believes the             
 Division of Agriculture should have oversight of this program,                
 since it is familiar with animal husbandry.  As written, range-run            
 cattle would be considered abandoned and could be seized by the               
 state.  SB 238 does not take into consideration traditional and               
 customary farming methods, such as roping, branding, and neutering,           
 which could be considered cruel treatment.  There are no nutrition,           
 housing and sanitation standards for livestock that fit all of                
 Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                               
 LARRY PETTY, testifying from Fairbanks, stated the Division of                
 Agriculture needs to oversee programs associated with farm animals.           
                                                                               
 ART GRISWOLD, testifying from Fairbanks, agreed with Mr. Petty and            
 added the Cooperative Extension Service supplies feeding guides for           
 animals of different types in Alaska.                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR announced the committee would be working with the              
 sponsor of the legislation and will provide sufficient public                 
 notice before the bill is rescheduled.  He adjourned the meeting at           
 3:05 p.m.                                                                     

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